Alien creationism with Josh Lindal

Most of us are most likely aware of the arguments against the theory of evolution presented by religious extremists. But did you know that Ancient Aliens believers have their version of evolution denialism? In this episode, we will examine their arguments for this fringe idea. More importantly, we will learn more about human evolution from a real expert.

We have Josh Lindal, a paleoanthropologist at the University of Winnipeg, guesting on this episode. Josh is also one of the hosts of the podcast "Screens of the Stone Age." A show where three archaeologists watch and discuss different archaeological-themed movies and series.

In this episode, we will look closer on:

Human Evolution

Homo Naledi

Desmond Morris

Russel Wallace and Darwin

Mitochondrial Eve (mt-Eve)

Why humans don't have fur



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Selection of Josh publications and research:

Sources, resources, and further reading suggestions

Dorus, S., Vallender, E.J., Evans, P.D., Anderson, J.R., Gilbert, S.L., Mahowald, M., Wyckoff, G.J., Malcom, C.M. and Lahn, B.T. (2004). Accelerated Evolution of Nervous System Genes in the Origin of Homo sapiens. Cell, [online] 119(7), pp.1027–1040. doi:

Gosden, C. (2018). Prehistory: a Very Short Introduction. Second ed. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

Gowlett, J.A.J. (2016). The discovery of fire by humans: a long and convoluted process. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, [online] 371(1696), p.20150164. doi:

Harmand, S., Lewis, J.E., Feibel, C.S., Lepre, C.J., Prat, S., Lenoble, A., Boës, X., Quinn, R.L., Brenet, M., Arroyo, A., Taylor, N., Clément, S., Daver, G., Brugal, J.-P., Leakey, L., Mortlock, R.A., Wright, J.D., Lokorodi, S., Kirwa, C. and Kent, D.V. (2015). 3.3-million-year-old stone tools from Lomekwi 3, West Turkana, Kenya. Nature, 521(7552), pp.310–315. doi:

Moody, L. (2011). Saucers, Lies and Audio Tape. [online] Not a Ghost. Available at:

Nishimura, T., Tokuda, I.T., Miyachi, S., Dunn, J.C., Herbst, C.T., Ishimura, K., Kaneko, A., Kinoshita, Y., Koda, H., Saers, J.P.P., Imai, H., Matsuda, T., Larsen, O.N., Jürgens, U., Hirabayashi, H., Kojima, S. and Fitch, W.T. (2022). Evolutionary loss of complexity in human vocal anatomy as an adaptation for speech. Science, 377(6607), pp.760–763. doi:

Reich, D. (2019). Who we are and how we got here : ancient DNA and the new science of the human past. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

van Straalen, N.M. (2018). The naked ape as an evolutionary model, 50 years later. Animal Biology, 68(3), pp.227–246. doi:


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