8. Close Encounters - Part 2 - Guest Erik Palmgren

February 8, 2022 by Fredrik

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1561 Germany, are reports of colors in the sky signs of alien battle? 1668 an American preacher looks through a telescope and notices something on the moon. 1187, as Saladin's forces break through the gates to Jerusalem, a few soldiers smuggle out a precious artifact and hide it on a Canadian island.

Our host Fredrik continues the mission to discover what is genuine, fake, and somewhere in between on the TV-show Ancient Aliens. This week we are joined again by archeologist and teacher Erik Palmgren on a sightseeing tour through the close encounters of our past.

This week we finished up episode 4 from season one titled “Closer Encounters”. In this second half we do uncover old journals, a few theories and some new travel destinations.

Topics discussed in this episode:

1561 Celestial phenomenon Nuremberg

Cotton Mathers UFO

Plurality of worlds theory

Thomas Paine

Chaco Canyon

Hopi Linguistics

Oak Island Mystery

Knights Templars

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The UFO that the show claims was fighting over Nuremberg — This is a copy of the original from Zentralbibliothek Zürich named "Himmelserscheinung über Nürnberg vom 14. April 1561"

A comparison of the image used in the show and the original — This is a copy of the original from Zentralbibliothek Zürich named "Himmelserscheinung über Nürnberg vom 14. April 1561"

Orions belt over streat of the dead according to Ancient Aliens — How Ancient Aliens and the "Orion correlation theory" is described to fit in the episode at 1:27:55

How Orions belt really fit over streat of the dead — How it really plays out on a map, in the top right corner you can see the pyramids on a north south alignment. Cholula Pyramid in the left. Image Credit Google maps

Sources, resources and further reading suggestions

Apiarius, S. et al. (1566) Seltzame gestalt so in disem M. D. LXVI. Jar/ gegen auffgang vnd nidergang/ vnder dreyen malen am Himmel ist gesehen worden / zů Basel auff den xxvij. vnd xxviij. Höwmonat vnd volgends auff den vij. Augsten. [Online]. Basel: Getruckt durch Samuel Apiarium.Short, Thomas. (1749) A General Chronological History of the Air, Weather, Seasons, Meteors, &c. in Sundry Places and Different Times: More Particularly for the Space of 250 Years : Together with Some of Their Most Remarkable Effects on Animal (especially Human) Bodies and Vegetable

Glaser, H. & Wick, J. J. (1561) [Himmelserscheinung über Nürnberg vom 14. April 1561]. [Online]. zu Nürmberg: Bey Hanns Glaser Brieffmaler.

Middlehurst, Barbara M. et al. (1968) Chronological Catalog of Reported Lunar Events - Chronological catalog of reported lunar events or temperature changes on moon recorded between 1540 and 1967. NASA, Washington DC.

Silverman, Kenneth (2001). The life and times of Cotton Mather. New York: Harper & Row

Basalla, George. (2006). Civilized life in the universe: scientists on intelligent extraterrestrials. Oxford: Oxford University Press

Ziesche, Philipp (2010). Cosmopolitan Patriots: Americans in Paris in the Age of Revolution. University of Virginia Press

Hawke, David (1974). Paine. New York: Harper & Row Publishers.

Baldwin R. (1809) The Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, from Their Commencement, in 1665, to the Year 1800: Volume 8. C and R Baldwin, London.

Short, Thomas. (1749) A General Chronological History of the Air, Weather, Seasons, Meteors, &c. in Sundry Places and Different Times: More Particularly for the Space of 250 Years : Together with Some of Their Most Remarkable Effects on Animal (especially Human) Bodies and Vegetable. T. Longman and A. Millar, London.

Sofaer, Anna (2008). Chaco Astronomy: An Ancient American Cosmology. Ocean Tree Books

Morrow, B. H., & Price, V. B. (1997). Anasazi architecture and American design. Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press.

J.C. Carracedo, E. Rodriguez Badiola, V. Soler, The 1730–1736 eruption of Lanzarote, Canary Islands: a long, high-magnitude basaltic fissure eruption, Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research, Volume 53, Issues 1–4, 1992, Pages 239-250.

Winthrop, John. Savage, James (ed). (1790). The History of New England from 1630 to 1649. Boston: Phelps and Farnham 1825. (p. 290)

Boas, Adrian J. (2001). Jerusalem in the Time of the Crusades: Society, Landscape and Art in the Holy City under Frankish Rule. London: Taylor & Francis Group / Books

Boas, Adrian J. & Boas, Adrian J. (2016). The crusader world. New York, NY: Routledge Taylor & Francis Group

Benjamin of Tudela (1983). The Itinerary of Benjamin of Tudela: Travels in the Middle Ages. Malibu: Panglos Press Reprint of 1840 ed.

Jason Colavito - An orion correlation on the hopi reservation

Whiteley, Peter. (1999). Hopi Dictionary/Hopìikwa Lavàytutuveni: A Hopi-English Dictionary of the Third Mesa Dialect. American Anthropologist. 101. 10.1525/aa.1999.101.3.659. Page 154

Music used in this episode:

“Now we ride” by Alexander Nakarada

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Barcarolle - Prelude - Tschaikowsky (Tchaikovsky) - Classic Concert Grand Piano (Die Jahreszeiten - The Seasons)

“Untouchable” - Dan Philipson

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