7. Close Encounters - Part 1 - Guest Erik Palmgren

What does an ancient town in Pakistan have in common with the Manhattan project? Is there a connection between Bristol and Columbus' first voyage to America?

Our host Fredrik continues our mission to discover what is genuine, fake, and somewhere in between. This week we are joined by archeologist and teacher Erik Palmgren on a sightseeing tour through the close encounters of our past. 

We will visit ancient sites claimed to be remains of an ancient nuclear war, the black sea and the famous scrolls. We will read manuscripts from the past and look at paintings that the Ancient Alien theorists claim to be evidence of encounters of the third kind.

We also talk about how the burden of evidence should work, today's education in schools and the importance of production value. 

Trinity Testsite 

Brahma Weapons

Mohenjo Daro

Sodom and Gomorrah

Black Sea Deluge Hypothesis 

Noah's Flood / Dead Sea Scrolls


Otia Imperialis

UFO in medieval art

The Black Death

Columbus lights in the sky

Sources, resources and further reading suggestions

The Leon Levy The Dead Sea Scrolls Digital Library

How Ancient Astronaut Theorists Faked a Hindu Nuclear Explosion

Mackay, E. J. H., ed. (1937). Further Excavations At Mohenjo-daro: Being an official account of Archaeological Excavations at Mohenjo-Daro carried out by the Government of India between the years 1927 and 1931.Vol 1, Vol 2

Marshall, John Hubert, ed. (1931). Mohenjo-Daro and the Indus Civilization: Being an official account of Archaeological Excavations at Mohenjo-Daro carried out by the Government of India between the years 1922 and 1927. Arthur Probsthain Vol 1, Vol 2, Vol 3

Flemming, Nicholas. (1980). Cities under the Mediterranean. 

Gervase of Tilbury (2002). Otia Imperialia = Recreation for an emperor. Oxford: Oxford University Press

The Frozen Ark

Svalbard Global Seed Vault

Schmid, Boris V et al. “Climate-driven introduction of the Black Death and successive plague reintroductions into Europe.” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America vol. 112,10 (2015): 3020-5. doi:10.1073/pnas.1412887112

Herlihy, David (1997). The black death and the transformation of the west. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard Univ. Press

Paintings Mentioned

"ESALTATION OF THE EUCARISTY" (Detail of the Trinity) by Ventura Salimbeni

“CRUCIFIXION” - Visoki Decani Monastery, Kosovo

“The annunciation Mary” - Carlo Crivelli in 1486

Music used in this episode:

Music: “Now we ride” by Alexander Nakarada

Licensed under Creative Commons BY Attribution 4.0 License 


Wandering Knight - Giulio Fazio

All sounds and music used with permission, support your creators!

Remember to like our Facebook page!